Sunday, April 01, 2012

US Seeks Coordinated Gulf Strategy on Iran, Syria

Good Luck

Associated Press
By Bradley Clapper

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — 
The Obama administration is seeking to advance talks among Saudi Arabia and its neighbors on a missile defense system against Iran, while slowing any plans among Arab Gulf states to intervene militarily in Syria.
No "want" about it:  Obama HAS to have another war
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton met for almost two hours with Saudi King Abdullah on Friday, conferring on regional military strategy and how to increase oil sanctions against Iran while ensuring ample global petroleum supplies. Governments are under pressure to reduce purchases of Iranian crude, and the U.S. hopes Saudi supplies can ease the transition.

The talks are occurring amid increased international concern over Iran's uranium enrichment activity and speculation that military action by the U.S. or Israel may occur. The U.S., Israel and some Arab countries accuse Iran of trying to build nuclear weapons, but the Islamic republic insists its program is solely for peaceful energy and research purposes.

In Washington, President Barack Obama said Friday he was plowing ahead with potential sanctions against countries that keep buying oil from Iran, including U.S. allies, in the deepening campaign to starve Iran of money for its nuclear program. The world oil market is tight but deep enough to keep the squeeze on Iran, Obama said.

U.S. officials didn't provide all the details of Clinton's meeting with Abdullah, which included an hour when the two spoke privately without any aides present. They expressed a shared commitment to a stable international oil market, senior State Department officials said, outlining the discussions on condition of anonymity.
Insane, power mad Clinton will do, say anything to start WWIII
America's top diplomat and the Saudi monarch also discussed coordination among the Arab Gulf states on how to unite their defensive capacities into a cohesive regional strategy. Despite sensing a shared threat from Shiite power Iran, wide technical and political divisions separate the Sunni countries, which span the oil-rich kingdoms of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to impoverished Yemen.

The United States is already planning to sell defensive missile technology to the U.A.E., which along with Saudi Arabia ranks among the more advanced militarily. But Washington wants the big and small Gulf governments to reconcile their distrust of each other and develop a united long-term missile defense architecture.
Hilarious:  Clinton must again kiss the fat ass of this Saudi "royal"
The talks will continue Saturday at a security conference bringing together the U.S. and the Arab Gulf states. They will also discuss U.N. mediation efforts to end a year of repression by Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime.

Clinton is hoping to build momentum ahead of Sunday's 60-nation gathering of the "Friends of the Syrian People" in Istanbul. The U.S. remains opposed to arming Syria's rebels, which some Gulf states have proposed, even as continued violence is stymying U.N. efforts to persuade Damascus to make good on a cease-fire plan it has accepted.

Instead, the U.S. is working to help unify the splintered opposition's ranks while pushing for humanitarian aid and further isolation of Assad's regime. It is hoping that some glimmers of progress will persuade Saudi Arabia and Qatar, among others, to hold back on calls for more aggressive approaches, including the establishment of safe zones for rebel operations.
The alliance Obama/Clinton created has stopped them in their tracks
International opponents of Assad are struggling to pin down a strategy on Syria even as the peace plan put forward by U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan is failing to get off the ground. Syria accepted the six-point plan, but there has been no halt in fighting and the opposition suspects Assad has no intention of stopping his crackdown. Western diplomats also fear Assad may only be playing for time.

Assad said Thursday that he wants the plan to succeed, but he insisted the opposition must first commit to a cease-fire as well. The U.N.'s Annan urged the Syrian government to pull back its troops first, and U.S. officials said much of the diplomacy right now concerns the delicate choreography of how the two sides would lay down their weaponry.
Americans had better come to grips with the FACT that any attack on Iran by either Israel and the nutcase Netanyahu or the U.S. will result in more of this, with the exception that it will be on a huge scale making the Pentagon's military (fake) death numbers in the illegal wars in Iran or Afghanistan look negligible by comparison

Syrian activists say fresh fighting erupted Friday between soldiers and rebel fighters in the country's northern Idlib province. More than 9,000 people have been killed in Syria's violence since last March, according to U.N. estimates.

Associated Press writer Abdullah al-Shihri contributed to this report.

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Medical Advisory : Diabetic Sunstroke, Hypoglycemia in Tropical Environments

First person report:  5th Estate Editor almost bites the dust covering Indonesian protests

The 5th Estate
By Robert S. Finnegan

Deciding to cover the recent fuel subsidy protests here in Jakarta first hand, I immediately went about forgetting that I am no longer nine-feet tall and bulletproof, as age takes it's toll and Type 1 diabetes slowly eats away at my health as I get older, however ungracefully.  Adding a good ration of extreme stupidity plus a hot day, and I damn near succeeded in killing myself.

5th Estate Editor with protesters
In 2005 I developed a non-diagnosable, massive abdominal infection that was nearly fatal, also developing a necrotic pancreas in the process.  It had to be resected during a five hour emergency surgery that left me a Type 1 diabetic, taking daily insulin injections.  Upon exiting the United States for the last time, my surgeon and doctors (at least 20 of them due to the nature of the illness being undiagnosable) told me I would never survive a return to our home in Indonesia, giving me 5 years maximum to live because of my diabetic condition.  I am now on year 6 and still kicking, albeit feebly.

The day started out hot, a warning sign that like an idiot, I disregarded.  I also didn't wear or bring a hat, thinking I would work on my non-existent tan.  Second big mistake.  I had to hike about a mile in to the protest and then became so absorbed shooting images and taping interviews I ignored the first warning sign that I was getting hungry, a symptom that accompanies hypoglycemia. It was only when the shaking started that I realized I had better test my blood sugar.  I had purposely jacked it up knowing I would be taking on a stress load, pumping it up to 280, but this was eaten up just getting to the site.  I thought I had a lot in reserve but I was mistaken, big time.

Events then began spiralling downward rapidly, faster than I could react to it.  There was no shade available, and everyone had to hike into the area in front of the DPR (Indonesian Parliament) building as the police and military had sealed it off to all but foot traffic.  I had not taken this into account for my exit, and soon found myself in real trouble.  My eyesight started flickering and when I walked away leaving my camera equipment on the ground after testing my blood I knew I had to do something, fast (my eternal thanks to the Indonesian man that called my attention to the gear I had left behind).  I bought a bandanna from a vendor, but it was too late.

I was not even thinking about sunstroke, which I was now rapidly going into on top of my blood sugar reading at a very low 72.  Deciding to make for any shade available, I started down the crowded street weaving like a drunk.  By the time I finally found a place to lay down I was already going into shock and only halfway to my destination..  I had purchased water and proceeded to strip down and douse myself liberally, the breeze had just quit making the area into an instant steam bath.  I elevated my legs and forced down a large bar of chocolate I had for emergencies and always carry, another bad mistake:  how in the hell am I going to eat it if super-nauseated as I now was or unconscious?  Partially recovered and finally recognizing the dual nature of my predicament, I hoofed it back out to an area where I could get a taxi, and finally made it home (My thanks also to the man from Toraja who, recognizing I was in deep shit stayed with me until I had somewhat recovered an hour later).  The heat being generated by my body steamed the windows of the cab for the duration of the ride home.

My temperature even then was 102.7 degrees, a blistering, dangerous fever for someone my age even under normal conditions.  I immediately got into an ice-filled bath and got my temperature back down to normal.  I also took aspirin for good measure, which will reduce a fever quickly.  I am still recovering from the sunburn and the diabetic sunstroke three days later - it was once of the stupidest things I have ever accomplished.

Insulin pen injectors

Insulin is readily available here in Indonesia (if you have the money), however it must be studiously protected against the heat and any possible source of contamination.  It is available for the most part in "insulin pens" which make administering it fairly easy and comfortable, if you can call jamming a needle in your ass at any given time "comfortable."  There is also the compromised immune system that really needs to be remembered, we (diabetics) are far and away more susceptible to infection from what would normally be non-life threatening injuries.  With us, all the bets are off, and any small injury, especially to the feet must be dealt with immediately, usually with antibiotics.  Fortunately, they are cheap and readily available here in Jakarta, and they are always in the medical satchel I carry with me.

There was no way my wife (who chewed my ass out royally) - normally my savior in medical emergencies like this - could have found me in time, even with precise instructions it would have taken too long.  I was on my own, and extremely lucky not to have wound up dead.  In another act of lunacy I had left my diabetic bracelet at home, as it interferes with my shooting.  All in all a real bang-up performance for a guy who is supposed to be a medic.

Lessons Learned:

While not advisable, when attempting a journey alone always leave a note in a conspicuous place so your people or hotel staff can at least know where to start searching for you.

Take a hat and collapsible umbrella.

Take your insulin, if you are unconscious someone attending you may see it and know you are a diabetic.  Also, WEAR YOUR BRACELET.

Carry as much water as possible.

Memorize the symptoms and treatment for diabetic sunstroke and carry a copy so that others may find it and begin treatment if you are unconscious.  Write a synopsis of your medical condition, any medications you are on, mark it conspicuously and put it where someone helping you can find it fast.  Make sure you have two copies, one in English, and the other in the language of the country you are in.

Plan your trip in and out, stick to it.  This is one case where an alternate is unacceptable.

Have a cellphone if possible.  Make sure you have your numbers stored, confusion is a killer and unaviodable with hypoglycemia.

In an addition to an edible like chocolate, carry (as I do now) a vial or container of raw glucose (boiled cane sugar, not refined) or previously boiled pancake syrup and a syringe.  As a very last resort you can inject it subcutaneously, however this is only if you know you are on your way out.  Otherwise ingest it with water to speed entry into the bloodstream.

Don't ignore symptoms or put off testing blood sugar levels, test at the first sign of symptoms.

Vanity will get you killed.

Act your age.  Trying to bullshit yourself in any environment that you are normal will get you real dead, real fast, as I almost found out and I consider myself a cautious traveler.

Dr. Bob is a broken down old U.S. Marine with extensive experience operating in both jungle and arctic environments.  The treatments in this article have been tried and tested by Dr. Bob, however all medicine dosages should be checked on the Net or in the Physicians Desk Reference for applicable body weight, allergic reactions, renal and liver disease and any adverse symptoms that may arise.  Whenever possible, double check with a doctor before dosing or treating yourself.


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Poles Talk About CIA Prison, Breaking Silence; CIA Murderers Now Under Gun as They Are Exposed

These murdering bastards must be rounded up en masse, interrogated,* and publicly executed for their crimes, no quarter given to treasonous CIA scum; Poland authorities scrambling now attempting to avoid War Crimes charges

Associated Press
By Vanessa Gera
WARSAW, Poland —

For years, the notion that Poland could allow the CIA to operate a secret prison in a remote lake region was treated as a crackpot idea by the country's politicians, journalists and the public.

CIA "Black Site" in Poland
A heated political debate this week reveals how dramatically the narrative has changed.

In a string of revelations and political statements, Polish leaders have come closer than ever to acknowledging that the United States ran a secret interrogation facility for terror suspects in 2002 and 2003 in the Eastern European country.

Some officials recall the fear that prevailed after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and defend the tough stance that former U.S. President George W. Bush took against terrorists.

But the debate is sometimes tinged with a hint of disappointment with Washington, as if Poland's young democracy had been led astray — ethically and legally — by the superpower that it counts as a key ally, and then left alone to deal with the fallout.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Thursday that Poland has become the "political victim" of leaks from U.S. officials that brought to light aspects of the secret rendition program.

Poland drops the dime on CIA "Black Sites" on it's soil

In his most forthcoming comments on the matter to date, Tusk said an ongoing investigation into the case is proof of Poland's democratic credentials and that Poland cannot be counted on in the future in such clandestine enterprises.

"Poland will no longer be a country where politicians — even if they are working arm-in-arm with the world's greatest superpower — could make some deal somewhere under the table and then it would never see daylight," said Tusk, who took office four years after the site was shuttered.

Another CIA "black Site" in Poland where "terrorists"were brought from all over the world to be tortured, killed

"Poland is a democracy where national and international law must be observed," Tusk said. "This issue must be explained. Let there be no doubt about it either in Poland or on the other side of the ocean."

To some, it sounded like a long-delayed admission that Poland allowed the U.S. to run the secret site, where terror suspects were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics that human rights advocates consider torture.

CIA "Black Site" at Szczytno, Poland

"This statement is quite different from any others," said Adam Bodnar, a human rights lawyer with the Helsinki Foundation in Warsaw. "From the general context, he's kind of admitting that something is in the air. You can feel that this is an indirect confirmation."

For years Polish officials and the public treated the idea that the CIA ran a prison in Poland as absurd and highly unlikely — even after the United Nations and the Council of Europe said they had evidence of its existence. Polish officials repeatedly rebuffed international calls for serious investigations. The idea slowly only began to get serious consideration after Polish prosecutors opened an investigation into the matter in 2008.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Bush and his CIA could kidnap, torture anyone they suspected of being a "terrorist," including American Citizens, authorization was also given to U.S. "contractors"

A new breakthrough came Tuesday when a leading newspaper, Gazeta Wyborcza, reported that prosecutors have charged a former spy chief, Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, for his role in allowing the site. Siemiatkowski was reportedly charged with depriving prisoners of war of their freedom and allowing corporal punishment.

Obama could care less if Americans were tortured, murdered
Siemiatkowski has refused to comment, telling The Associated Press he was bound by secrecy laws on the matter. But he did not deny the report.

The issue is hugely sensitive because any Polish leaders who would have cooperated with the U.S. program would have been violating Poland's constitution, both by giving a foreign power control over part of Polish territory and allowing crimes to take place there.

Any officials who were involved could — in theory — be charged with serious crimes, including crimes against humanity.

Former U.S. President George W. Bush writes in his memoir "Decision Points" that he ordered the CIA to subject about 100 terror detainees to harsh interrogation techniques, arguing the methods did not constitute unlawful torture and that they produced intelligence that prevented further attacks. Neither he nor the CIA have officially said where the "black sites" were based, but intelligence officials, aviation reports and human rights groups say they included Afghanistan and Thailand as well as Poland, Lithuania and Romania.

War Criminal Blair, MI6 operated CIA "Black Sites" in the UK
Former CIA officials have told the AP that a prison in Poland operated from December 2002 until the fall of 2003, and that prisoners were subjected to harsh questioning and waterboarding in Stare Kiejkuty, a village set in a lush area of woods and lakes. Human rights groups believe about eight terror suspects were held in Poland, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks; Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi national charged with orchestrating the attack in 2000 on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors; and Abu Zubaydah, a Palestinian terror suspect.

Poland is the only country that has opened a serious investigation into the matter, something which Bodnar says is a sign of maturing in this 23-year-old democracy, with prosecutors, journalists and human rights lawyers all trying to seek truth and accountability.

"Poland deserves credit for this step, as the first European state to begin to deal with CIA torture on its own soil," said Cori Crider, legal director for Reprieve, a British human rights group.

The Polish leaders in office at the time — former President Aleksander Kwasniewski and former Prime Minister Leszek Miller — have vehemently denied the prison's existence.

Ripping a page out of Nazi Gestapo interrogation manual CIA torture toys used on Americans:  Bought and paid for with U.S. taxpayer money

But they nonetheless have voiced support for the rendition program in principle, arguing that the U.S. and its allies were at war with terrorists after the Sept. 11 attacks and that tough measures were needed.

"I will always stand on the side of hurt women, children and the victims of attacks," Miller said in a radio interview this week. "I won't shed tears for murderers. A good terrorist is a dead terrorist."

CIA illegal "rendition" sites worldwide; War Criminal Condoleeza Rice approved CIA torture, murder

Even former President Lech Walesa, the iconic democracy fighter, said he is "against torture ... but this is war and war has its particular rules."

Miller, the head of the Democratic Left Alliance, an opposition party, has been the main target of criticism by political opponents this week. Some even say he should face the State Tribunal, a special court charged with trying state figures.

Architects of illegal CIA kidnap, torture program:  Bush, Rove

Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, a senator who was the foreign minister when the site operated, said Miller should take responsibility for what happened 10 years ago.

"About a CIA prison in Poland, if it existed, I didn't know," Cimoszewicz said on Radio RMF FM. "But everything indicates that the CIA used a villa in Stare Kiejkuty."

Human rights lawyers and activists welcome the new openness.

"There is some satisfaction here," said Bodnar. "The most important thing is accountability. Intelligence agencies cooperate with each other, but after this they will remember that they need to obey the constitution and that some things they cover up could become public at some point."

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Clinton: Time Running Out for Diplomacy with Iran : Videos

Time running out for Clinton, criminal Obama regime:  Obama propagandists now using war with Iran to divert attention from Afghan massacre, coverup

By Bradley Clapper

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) —

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton made clear Saturday that time is running out for diplomacy over Iran's nuclear program and said talks aimed at preventing Tehran from acquiring a nuclear weapon would resume in mid-April.

War Criminal:  Hillary "Hag" Clinton
With speculation over a possible U.S. or Israel military attack adding urgency to the next round of discussions in Istanbul set for April 13, Clinton said Iran's "window of opportunity" for a peaceful resolution "will not remain open forever."

She also expressed doubt about whether Iran has any intention of negotiating a solution that satisfies the U.S., Israel and other countries that believe Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons. Tehran contends the program is solely for peaceful energy and research purposes.

"We're going in with one intention: to resolve the international community's concerns about Iran's nuclear program," Clinton told reporters after attending a security conference in Saudi Arabia.

"Our policy is one of prevention, not containment. We are determined to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon," America's top diplomat said.

"We enter into these talks with a sober perspective about Iran's intentions. It is incumbent upon Iran to demonstrate by its actions that it is a willing partner and to participate in these negotiations with an effort to obtain concrete results."

Iran has already vowed many times that it will retaliate, close the Persian Gulf to shipping if attacked by U.S. or Israel

Her remarks followed President Barack Obama's announcement Friday that the U.S. was moving ahead with penalties aimed at depriving Iran of oil revenue, while also working with Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states to ensure ample global petroleum supplies.

Insane, Narcissist, power mad:  Hillary Clinton
Clinton prodded Gulf governments to develop a coordinated defense strategy against Iranian missiles. With tensions rising in the region, she said American and Gulf militaries should cooperate to improve maritime security as well.

Underscoring the limits of U.S.-Gulf cooperation, however, U.S. officials confirmed Saturday that the United Arab Emirates had shut down an American-funded democracy group, following similar Emirates action against a German organization this past week.

Discussions also covered ways to pressure Syrian President Bashar Assad to end a year of bloodshed from the uprising against his rule, but the focus was on Iran.

"It soon will be clear whether Iran's leaders are prepared to have a serious, credible discussion about their nuclear program, whether they are ready to start building the basis of a resolution to this very serious problem," Clinton said. "It is up to Iran whether they are ready to make the right choice. ... What is certain is that Iran's window of opportunity to seek and obtain a peaceful resolution will not remain open forever."

Obama criminal regime Propaganda Minister James Carney has a warm seat waiting alongside his masters at War Crimes trials in the Hague, along with CIA compromised "mainstream media" propagandists/apologists the likes of [U.S.]Al Jazeera, Fox News

She said pressure from the economic penalties and international isolation was increasing on Iran to show it is serious about satisfying the world's concerns.

Bush's "Axis Sally" super-bitch, the illiterate prostitute Dana Perino thinks she has escaped justice - she has not and will be sitting right beside Carney and the other Bush regime criminals
Iran and the six nations involved in the negotiations— the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China — met in Istanbul 14 months ago. But the talks ended after two days with the sides unable to even agree on what to talk about.

While obsolete, Iran has plenty of spare parts and the means to initially do major damage to the U.S. Navy in the Persian Gulf, Sunburn ship-killer missiles, highly trained, motivated Navy, military, and will result in thousands of American casualties

Iran has used past talks to delay sanctions or try to divide the international front, while pressing ahead with its nuclear program.

Obama has underlined the need to give time for diplomacy alongside penalties. He said Friday that the U.S. would move ahead with potential measures against U.S. allies and other countries that keep buying Iranian oil. It was the latest step in the campaign to starve Iran of money for its nuclear activity.

The president said the world oil market was tight, but deep enough to keep the squeeze on Iran.

Obama thinks world public as stupid as he is
Clinton, who met Friday for almost two hours with Saudi King Abdullah, said the U.S. and Saudi Arabia share an interest in ensuring stable energy markets that foster economic growth.

She recognized the kingdom's efforts to meet increased market demand for countries weaning themselves off Iranian petroleum imports. She also said the U.S. and Sunni governments of the region would cooperate to counter Iranian threats against shipping in the Gulf and Tehran's support for "the Assad regime's murderous campaign."

Before arriving later Saturday in Turkey, where she planned to attend a 60-nation "Friends of the Syrian People" meeting Sunday, Clinton lamented what she called the Assad government's shelling of civilian neighborhoods and targeting of mosques and churches.

She said these attacks have continued despite Assad's acceptance of U.N. mediator Kofi Annan's plan to end the crisis. That plan includes an immediate cease-fire and an eventual democratic transition.

In a concluding statement, the U.S. and the other countries at Saturday's meeting urged Annan to issue a timeline for putting his plan in place.

Western diplomats want to give diplomacy a chance, having invested months of effort to persuade Russia and China, veto-holding members of the U.N. Security Council, to unite behind a common approach. But they, like the Syrian opposition, fear Assad may only be playing for time.

Obama created this alliance
Assad said he wants the plan to succeed, but insists the opposition must first commit to a cease-fire.

The West says the Syrian government must pull back its troops first, and U.S. officials say much of the diplomacy right now concerns the choreography of how the two sides would lay down their arms.

More than 9,000 people have been killed in Syria's violence since last March, according to U.N. estimates.

Gulf countries such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar are among the most impatient and have spoken about possible military intervention, from arming Syria's badly overmatched rebels to creating safe zones from which the rebels can operate.

"I believe we all agree on the need for an immediate cease-fire to the systematic killing," Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said at a news conference with Clinton.

He said the Syrian government's crackdown has "reached the level, at the very least described as crimes against humanity, on which the international community should not remain silent."

Washington fears a military escalation could lead to all-out civil war and play into Assad's hands, considering his vastly more powerful military.

Erdogan looks decidedly uncomfortable even being seen with war Criminal Obama

Clinton said officials meeting in Turkey would discuss "additional steps to increase pressure on the regime, provide humanitarian assistance despite the efforts of the regime to block access and advance plans for an inclusive, democratic and orderly transition that addresses the aspirations of the Syrian people."

Clinton said she regretted the decision by the Emirates' this past week to close down the U.S.-based National Democratic Institute and Germany's Konrad Adenauer Foundation. She said she expressed her displeasure in a meeting Saturday with the foreign minister and said the U.S. would continue to press its case.

Associated Press writer Maggie Michael in Cairo contributed to this report.

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Child Witnesses to Afghan Massacre Say Robert Bales Did Not Act Alone : Obama, Panetta, Clinton, Pentsgon DoD, JCS, ARMY Cover-Up in Full Swing

Murdering liar Obama isn't going to be able to bullshit his way out of this one

MSNBC World News
By Staff

Here are two versions of what happened the night of March 11, when 17 Afghan villagers were shot to death.

Dead Afghan child killed by U.S. forces
First, the Army version: Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, troubled by marriage woes, drunkenly left Camp Belambai, 12 miles from Kandahar, with a pistol and an automatic rifle and killed six people as they slept. Bales then returned to the base and left again for another village, this time killing 11. He acted alone and he admitted to the killings, according to the Army.

Then there is the account that child witnesses provided Yalda Hakim, a journalist for SBS Dateline in Australia. Hakim, who was born in Afghanistan and immigrated to Australia as a child, is the first international journalist to interview the surviving witnesses. She said American investigators tried to prevent her from interviewing the children, saying her questions could traumatize them. She said she appealed to village leaders, who arranged for her to interview the witnesses.

In the video, the children told Hakim that other Americans were present during the rampage, holding flashlights in the yard.

No Way in Hell:  Bales could not have done it all alone*
Noorbinak, 8, told Hakim that the shooter first shot her father’s dog. Then, Noorbinak said in the video, he shot her father in the foot and dragged her mother by the hair. When her father started screaming, he shot her father, the child says. Then he turned the gun on Noorbinak and shot her in the leg.

“One man entered the room and the others were standing in the yard, holding lights,” Noorbinak said in the video.

A brother of one victim told Hakim that his brother’s children mentioned more than one soldier wearing a headlamp. They also had lights at the end of their guns, he said.

“They don’t know whether there were 15 or 20, however many there were,” he said in the video.

Army officials have repeatedly denied that others were involved in the massacre, emphasizing that Bales acted alone.

There is also no way Obama, his killers and their killing machines will go unpunished for THIS

Obama: Afghan shooting rampage was work of lone gunman

Bales, who was flown to a maximum-security military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kan., was charged last week with 17 counts of murder and six attempts of attempted murder.

IMPOSSIBLE:  A Wall Street stockbroker with soft hands and NO PRIOR MILITARY EXPERIENCE DID THIS?

Staff Sgt. Bales charged with 17 counts of murder in Afghanistan massacre

The massacre came several days after a roadside bomb attack that cost one soldier his leg. Village residents told reporters and Afghan government officials that after the roadside bomb attack, U.S. troops lined up men from the village against a wall and told them they would pay a price. The Pentagon has denied those allegations.

Note the exit wound on the head of the child in the foreground:  THIS CHILD HAD A GUN STUCK IN HIS MOUTH

Pentagon: No evidence that Afghan massacre was a retaliation

Gen. Karimi, assigned by Afghan President Hamid Karzai to investigate the murders, told Hakim that he, too, wonders whether Bales acted alone and how he could left the base without notice.

The same as posing with a dead deer trophy:  U.S. forces that committed these atrocities doomed for eternity

“Village elders said several soldiers took part and that there is boot prints in the area,” Karimi told Hakim. He said villagers told him that they saw three or four individuals kneeling and that helicopters were overhead during the rampage.

“To search for him?” Karimi said he asked them.

“No,” he said they told him. “They were there from the very beginning.”

*No way.  Take it from an old Marine NCO, there is no way in hell Bales could have done all the damage, it is physically impossible and would have taken at least a platoon of highly pissed off Marines - as was first erroneously reported by the lying, US/CIA owned and operated "mainstream media" who will find themselves soon enough standing up in the dock at the Hauge War Crimes Trials as Accessories After the Fact  with the other murdering bastards in the Obama criminal regime.

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The Geopolitics Of The United States, Part 1: The Inevitable Empire

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Like nearly all of the peoples of North and South America, most Americans are not originally from the territory that became the United States.



Geopolitics Of The United States Part 2: American Identity And The Threats of Tomorrow

A look back at 2011 predictions for the future in order to put events of today into perspective

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We have already discussed in the first part of this analysis how the American geography dooms whoever controls the territory to being a global power, but there are a number of other outcomes that shape what that power will be like. The first and most critical is the impact of that geography on the American mindset.



By Robert S. Finnegan

This e-mail outlines and confirms the acts of espionage against Indonesia and Indonesians by Akiko Makino and the others involved both in Kobe University and in AI Lab at University of Airlangga, Surabaya; Bahasa Indonesia original follows English translation...



UPDATED 01/07/2015 : New Analysis Challenges Tamiflu Efficacy; Hong Kong Corona Virus Outbreak


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Obama criminals now resulting to biowarfare in quest to destroy Chinese and ASEAN economy; "novel virus substrain" points directly to a Kawaoka / Fouchier / Ernala-Ginting Kobe lab virus weaponized and genetically altered to specifically target and infect the Asian population: Ribavirin...



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The 5th Estate has just purchased a library on H5N1 "Novel" virus pandemics, there are dozens of PDF and Exel documents we feel will assist you in saving lives following intentional releases of the H5N1 and now MERS viruses; we will begin by printing those that appear to be extremely relevant here: H5N1 Kobe-Kawaoka-Ernala series continues soon with more "Smoking Gun" e-mails from Teridah Ernala to The 5th Estate . . .



By Robert S. Finnegan

On October 12, 2002 the Indonesian island of Bali experienced a terrorist attack that rocked the world. It was unquestionably well-coordinated and executed, the largest in the country's history.